Kelly Slater’s Quiver For The Rip Curl Pro Search San Francisco
For this event, Kelly had a couple remakes of the two epoxy boards he rode in the NYC, Trestles and all through Europe. Each had made the trip, but have been buckled several times and repaired. He made sure to have a few fresh ones waiting for him upon his arrival to the city by the bay. The conditions could range from smooth glassy three-footers to unruly monsters. With the rumor that they will be without jet skis assist, who knows — it could be a paddling contest and we may only see one or two waves ridden by each surfer . Anyway, that’s where a few fuller and longer step ups could come into play.
From Left to Right
- 5’9″ x 18 1/4″ x 2 1/4″ rounded pin Fred Rubble. EPS Foam, Epoxy Glass, FCS Five Fin Option
- 5’9″ x 19 1/4″ x 2 1/4″ rounded pin Semi Pro. EPS Foam, Epoxy Glass, FCS Five Fin Option
- 5’11″ x 18 3/8″ x 2 1/4″ rounded pin Semi Pro step up. FCS Five Fin Option
- 5’11″ x 18 3/8″ x 2 1/4″ rounded pin Semi Pro step up
- 6’5″ x 18 3/8″ x 2 1/4″ rounded pin Semi Pro step up
- 6’5″ x 18 3/8″ x 2 1/4″ rounded pin Fred Rubble step up
What’s the difference between # 3 & 4?
They are likely made to be the same, just backup as that’s a key size.
Hello all,
I’m in the market, and I currently have a 6’0 x 18 3/4 x 2 5/16 squash tail. I love it, but need a back up as I’ll be surfing Nicaragua in May. I’m 5’10″ 145 lbs and intermediate skill level. What dims do you recommend?
Sorry, I forgot to mention my home breaks are the South Bay, South LA mainly Burnout and Manhattan Beach.
Rob,
Nica is generally pretty good, so look at a 5’11 x 18 3/4 x 2 1/4 Semi Pro.
Its is 25.5L and rated for an expert at 170lbs.
Hi Al,
I am having some of your boards from Jason Ribbink, they are great. The shapes and the glassing are very good. Congratulations for Kelly on his 11th World Title,
he really deserved.
Best regards and good waves, Daniel Paez
Hey I’m 5’7 135 lbs, intermediate (above avg) skill. Surf Socal mostly fair-good waves (OC to trestles). Looking for a new CI board (rode most recently JS Flyboy 5’11 x 18 1/8 x 2 1/8 previously), what volume and board (dims) would you guys recommend? Thanks! Go Ke11Y!
Jay, You can go shorter and wider given your size and ability. The below dims will give you more drive and tighter arcs with the shorter rail.
Your JS is likely right around 23L.
5’9″ x 18 1/4 or 18 3/8 x 2 1/8 Cheesestick (22.9-23.5L)
5’8″ x 18 1/2 x 2 1/8 Rubble (23.4L)
5’9″ x 18 5/8 x 2 3/16 Rubble (24.5L)
Greetings! Congrats to Slater and CI.
I am 6’3″ 195lbs. I want to go a little shorter and stubbier and I’d like to go with a CI. I have a buddy shaping me boards, trying to get results…I last rode a 6’5″ x 18 2/3 x 2 1/3 in head high, mushy beachbreak. It went “ok”. I feel (with limited knowledge of shaping) that it has a mite too much rocker for rippable waves. It may in fact be more of a step shape for a smaller human. Anyway, at my size, are there any recommendations you might make. Would like to try a template that I saw Kelly using at Trestles…I could of swore it was a squash. Thanks!
Marshall,
You are correct, long gone are the days of 6’5″ shortboards under 19″ wide.
Kelly has been riding the Rubble and Semi-Pro both, usually round tails.
a 6’4″ x 19 7/8 x 2 5/8 Rubble would be an excellent fit for an intermediate surfer at 195 lbs. (34.6L)
Advanced level would be a Rubble 6’2″ 19 5/8 x 2 1/2 (31.6L)
Hey guys, looking to get my yabba dabba doo on with a Rubble! I’m an intermediate level rider coming in at 6’3″ and 185lbs. been riding a 6’4″ Flyer in mostly weak FL surf. Thinking I can go a bit shorter and lose a little volume from the Flyer as I’m in better shape lately. What size and dims would you recommend, also is the 5-fin option viable on the squash tail or is that a Ke11y round tail thing? I like my quad fish on the right days but have never tried them on a performance board. On a side note…..I think Kelly should get another chair ride up the beach and be put on stage again with a functioning mic after his next heat win!
B-
Ya agreed Rip Curl can get the audio right on the 2nd pass hopefully.
5 fin option is available on any custom board. Only the Semi Pro and Neck Beard come off the rack as a 5-fin.
An intermed level 185lb guy on the Rubble can go 6’2″ x 19 5/8 x 2 1/2 (31.6L)
Your 6’4″ Flyer is approx 35.5L
You could also try the 6’3″ x 19 3/4 x 2 9/16 (33.0L)
Hello alI. I would love to try a semi pro and a fort knox for bigger waves. I am 5′ 9 ‘ intermediate surfer , 80 kg. Channel islands in Sydney will shape me your boards. I like rounded pins. Is a 6 ‘ 1″ semi pro , what thick ness and width is ok? I would like a Fort knox 6 ‘ 3 ” for biggger surf. What width and thickness ? thanks Anthony , Austraila.
Anthony,
The CI crew in Mona Vale is incredible, you will get some great boards from them.
At you size go for a 18 7/8 to 19 1/8″ x 2 3/8 on both models. Obviously the wider if you prefer a little more volume.
Thanks for the help. I am on the right track for thinkness and width. Anthony, broulee beach.Australia.
CI Crew,
I’m a novice/intermediate surfer living up in Oregon. In the winter I surf mostly beachbreak with a lot of current, long paddles and bump. My current step up board is a 6’6″ x 18.625″ roundpin with a healthy rocker and I just can’t seem to get into waves as early as I’d like to. When I do get one its hard to do much, but point it down the line. I want a shorter, looser board that will still get me in early. I’m 5’10″ and 165lbs and love my 5’10″ Dumpster Diver for head high and below surf. I’ve noticed a lot the team riders using the Fred Rubble as a step up and I had a chance to check out a 6’4″ round tail version in Encinitas last month. Would you recommend a thumbtail Fred 6’4″ or something else?
Gordon,
You are on the right track. Since that 5’10″ Dumpster is feeling good, make sure to keep that width over 19″ on that 6’4″ round tail Rubble. Team is loving these.
You could also try a 6’4″ RP Ft Knox
With all that rubber you are wearing don’t be afraid of some volume.
HI CI,
Im 5’9 and 155 pounds looking for short board to surf average Ventura days, Im your average intermediate surfer landing the occasional air.
Hey Sam
A 5’10″ x 18 7/8″ x 2 1/4″ Rubble (25.9L) would work well for Ventura and your size.
Hi Al, I leave in San Diego, and I realy like the number 2 model, but I am 6,3 tall, and 205 lbs do you think, a 6,1 in that shape would wor
Or can you tell me what size is best for me to adapt the kelly number 2!? I surf for almost 115 years……
thanks!
Henrique
Henrique,
115 years? But seriously you are going to need a 6’4″ Semi Pro 19 3/4 x 2 5/8. Rated for an expert/advanced surfer at 205 lbs. (33.4L)
At 6’1″ you would need to go over 20″ wide and 2 3/4 thick.
ooooops, not for 115 years, rsrsrsrsrs, 15 years, I wish I got that age and perphaps, surfing with a small board!!………….Now for real……. the tips still the same!? Now I ride a 6.2, 20 1/2, 2 3/4, swallow, but definetely I like most the round tail……
thanks!
Henrique
Henrique – It sounds like you are ok with width, you could go 6’3″ x 20 x 2 3/4 on a Semi Pro Round Pin
Do you know what the volume would be for the 6′-3″x20″x2-3/4″? I’m also 205 but at 5′-7″ and looking to order a semi-pro and/or a rubble in a round pin. Wondering if I could go with a 6′-2″x20″x2-3/4″ and get at least 33.5-33.8L of volume. Not sure if the volume works out with these dimensions tho. Maybe you can help. Would be much appreciated. Thanks!
James,
Without waiting to CAD your dims up for volume here are two reference boards:
Rubble 6’3″ x 19 3/4 x 2 9/16 = 33.0L
Semi Pro 6’3″ x 19 5/8 x 2 1/2 = 31.2L
Going an inch shorter but 1/4″ wider and 1/4 “thicker than above will land you at 33.0L-34.0 L no problem.
hi ci-
my 5’10 dumpster is about smashed so im gonna switch it up to the rubble. if the 5’10 dumpster was my go to for all around surf, what would that translate to in the rubble?? im 6’3 185lb.
Dylan,
Good to hear you are getting some miles on that Dumpster. Your 5’10″ would be about 31.9L
Based off that you could surf a 6’2″ x 19 5/8 x 2 1/2 Rubble (31.6L)
Hi,
Is there a difference in EPS foam with Epoxy glass and Tuflite Technology ?
Thanks!
Hi,
What is the difference between the EPS foam with epoxy and the Tuflite Technology? Tuflite also has ULTRAFLX technology, do you guys provide that for your boards?
Thanks
Hiro,
EPS+Epoxy is a traditional and fully custom hand-built construction here in Santa Barbara.
Tuflite, while also utilizing some hand construction, uses sandwich molded tech, available only in certain sizes and built in Thailand.
UltaFlex is currently under evaluation and is not offered yet.
hi ci,
I’m 5’4 110 and currently riding a rubble that 5’6″ x 18″ x 2″1/16 and looking into a board for better waves in socal like a proton
Tom,
Your Rubble looks to be right around 21L.
A proton for good waves could be a little less volume, a 5’7 x 18 or 17 7/8 wide, x 2 1/16 thick. This would be just under 21L
HEY WAS JUST WONDERING IM 6″4 260 EXPERIENCED SURFER AND CANT GET MY SHORTBOARD CORRECT RIDING A 6″10 AND THICKNESS IS 3 1/4 RIGHT NOW WHAT WOULD U RECOMEND FOR SOMEONE MY SIZE MORE OF ADVANCED SURFER THANX FOR YOUR TIME
Vince,
We recommend 40 to 50L of volume.
You could ride a 6’7″ warp (41.4L)
A 6’10 x 21 x 3 Whip at 46L
Just wondering which stick kelly chose for his round 4 heat…OB’s my home and paddling without compromising performance is always a dellicate situation.
I’m 5’9, 170lbs, what’s a good fit for tackling this heavy beach break? Btw, what’s the glass set up on your recommendations?
He rode the Rubble!
For OB go Standard glass – 6+4/4
You will ned everything from 5’11″ to 8’0″ at OB, what conditions?
…conditions? This would be my “everyday,” fall/early winter board, looking to handle head to + 3ft overhead-ish.
i am 5′ 11″ 165lbs. Advanced surfer trying to figure out the best dimensions for me.
i ride a 6′ 2 x 18 3/8 x 2 3/8 normally, and a 6’6″ x 18 5/8 x 2/3/8 when it gets big
What would you recommend for dimensions on the following boards.
Fred Rubble, Semi Pro, Re mix, Proton, and the deep 6?
Aloha, Dave
Dave, time to change your dims from 2008!
Rubble – 5’10″ 18 7/8 x 2 1/4 (25.9L)
SP – 6’1″ x 18 5/8 x 2 1/4 (26.0L)
ReMix – 6’0″ 18 1/2″ x 2 5 1/16 (26.7L)
Proton – 6’1″ x 18 5/8″ x 2 1/4″ (26.4L)
Deep 6 -
Greetings from Japan and Congrats to Kellt for his 11th V and to CI!!
I’m 5′ 6″ 127lbs novice/intermediate surfer living in japan and I ride 5′ 6 x 19 1/2 x 2 3/8 Motorboat for step up.
What would you recommend for my size and ability for the next step?
Thanks!
Koji
Thanks Koji!
Not sure what you mean by step up? We use that term for a board used in good waves.
What conditions are you looking to ride your next board in?
Hi,
Sorry for the confusion! What I meant was that I’m looking for a board to improve my skills. I surf mainly on the mushy beach break in Japan and I love my Motorboat very much but I’m interested in the Dagger, the Remix, the Cheese Stick, the Gravy and the Biscuit. Which boards and what dimensions would you recommend for waist high to overhead?
Thanks,
Koji
Koji,
Sorry we didn’t see this reply. Go Dagger for sure, 5’8 18 ¾ x 2 3/16
Hello,
I currently ride a biscuit 6’10x22x3 and a flyer 7’6×21.5×3. I am 6’5 235 lbs and an average surfer. Two questions:
1) what would you recommend to fill the gap between the biscuit and the flyer for decent days in NY/NJ?
2) Can you recommend something for middle of winter NY/NJ swells? With my size, a thick wetsuit and cold water I feel like I don’t have enough board to get in early on the larger hollow beach breaks around NY/NJ.
Thanks in advance!
JM,
1 – Only a few choices that land b/t a Biscuit and a Flyer. A Pod or Gravy would be more performance than a Biscuit, order the same size as your Biscuit but they will be much more foiled.
2 – An M13 could work well on the bigger days as the have some concave to vee. Al rode long M13s at Sunset in Hawaii all the time. Another option would be a 7’2″ to 7’6″ Black Beauty. 21 x 3
What are the main differences between the Rubble and the Semipro? I head that the Semi pro was made off the Tangent with Proton rocker and bottom contour and that the Rubble was based off the Flyer with Proton bottom contours.
I have a K whip and a Proton that I absolutely love, with a Rookie on the way. I definitely like what I guess are considered “front footed” boards.
Mike,
The main difference is the Rubble will carry more volume at the same dimensions as it has a wider nose and tail at 12″ as well as a fuller rail.
The Semi Pro is not quite a curvy as the Proton, but does have the same deep single concave through the back 3rd of the board.
The Rubble is single to double concave with vee behind the trailing fin, so not a single concave like the Proton.
Let us know how your Rookie goes!
Great insite… I’m 6’2″ 220 but fit, still surf a few contests. My best hpsb right now is a Mayhem Driver: 6’3″ 2 5/8 x 20 1/4 round tail 35.9 cu l [PU Hydroflex lam].
Ive been talking to R.Silva about getting some boards shaped from you guys, can you do some cu l #’s…?
-on the following
6’6 Proton Step Up 2 5/8 x 19 1/4
6’3″ FR 2 5/8 x 19 5/8
6’2″ Dagger 2 5/8 x 19 5/8
5’11″ Dumpster Diver Roundtail 2 3/4 x 20 1/5
Im trying to narrow my boards a bit-
-If I request a ‘team’ [pinched] rail can I get that, and can I request a specific shaper that shaped me my last gem from you guys?
Thanks and great work on the blog
dd
dd-
You can get any rail you want, if you want to even take a template you can send us that.
You can request a shaper if you had him do some specific tweaks last time no prob.
I can run your specs with the CAD guy but here are the estimations based off our closest stock dims
6’6″ Proton 19 1/2 x 2 5/8 = 34.3L at 1/4 narrower and pinched rail looking at approx 33.5L
6’3″ FR = 33L approx
6’2″ Dagger = 33.2L approx
5’11 DD – 34.7 L approx
Could you do them cu on a 5’11″ Nec Beard 2 5/8, 20 1/4
thanks dd
Approx 35L
;Hi,
I’m looking into getting a new CI board really soon. I’m a 5’7″ (70kg) intermediate surfer from Australia – I surf breaks around Bells on the west coast and Gunnamatta on the east coast (also Woolamai). I’m pretty keen to go for the Dumpster Diver, particularly for the small summer swells here. Any suggestion on what dimensions I should go for or if any other types of boards and their dimensions? Thanks heaps!!
Glyn
Sorry we missed your post.
You could rock a 5’6″ x 19 1/4 x 2 1/4 Diver no problem
Also look at a 5’8″ x 18 3/4 x 2 3/16 Dagger
Hey guys,
I surf OB all year round here in SF and have a pretty big quiver but am finding myself riding my smaller boards more and more. My current favorite board is a 6’1 x 18 3/4 x 2 3/8 swallow tail quad made by Chili I love it, especially in head high to a foot or two overhead. I never thought it would be able to paddle me enough at the Beach, but so far it seems to. Granted I haven’t started wearing my heavy 5mil suit yet, so maybe this will change, I don’t know. What I need is a step up board. I have a 6’6 x 19 x 2.5″ roundpin, but lately it just feels to voluminous and tough to duckdive; also, it feels like I am standing too far out of the water and don’t have the ability to displace water like I would like on it. If I was going to get a board for 1.5x-2x overhead at the Beach, what would you suggest? I am 5’9, 175 pounds. The Rubble seems interesting since it seems to have hidden foam to paddle better, but I would love to hear what you thought. When it comes to rails, I really have little understanding about pulling them out, or “pinching” them, as I read in some comments above. Please advise if you can.
Thank you kindly,
AG
AG,
A pinched rail is where the shaper takes some extra passes to make the rail thinner, creating a more sensitive and responsive rail at the expense of volume and potentially forgiveness.
If you like your 18 3/4, go 6’4″ 18 3/4 x 2 3/8 STEP-UP Rubble.
Similar to what Kelly rode up there. We will pull the tail to help the board settle when its pumping.
At your weight we should not need to pinch the rail at 2 3/8.
Awesome, thank you. Do I need to order this board or is that stock? And how do I go about actually doing so?
-AG
AG, The Rubble step is not an official model yet and would be custom build. You would have to place a custom order at your local dealer. Where are you located?
hey guys,
Would you say that the Rubble suits the average surfer better?
Ride a bradley cb8 now at 6.4-19-2 3/8 thinking about the rubble at 6,2-19? something and 2 3/8 thick.just because i dont like thick boards.
And wil the board go in indo?
thanks from holland
Roel,
For sure the Rubble with its double concave is very forgiving. And your dims sound good.
The Rubble will work in Bali for sure especially head hi and smaller, but if it’s pumping 2x overhead you might want to also take a semi-pro.
Hi CI Guys,
Thanks for this blog, it’s great to see so much insight. I am 6’2″ 205lb and I have a 6’2 19.5 by 2.5 flyer. It works really well but washes out in steeper waves. Would the rubble be a good addition to the quiver for that? What size would you say, I am an average surfer. Thanks!
Jon
Jon,
Order it the same size as your Flyer, the foiled extremties on the Rubble will make it more positive in steeper waves.
Hi – I am from Auckland, New Zealand, surf mostly beach breaks, and currently riding an ESP/Epxoy 5’11 x 18 3/4 x 2 3/8. Expoxy feels too ‘corky’ though. 5’9” and 165lb (this does fluctuate slightly) of average ability – what size Fred Rubble should I order? Thanks! Simon
Simon,
We say go 5’11″ x 19 x 2 5/16
Great – thanks for the quick reply – just need to find one now!
Is the wide point of semipro in front or behind center? Board description on your site says 2 inch behind center, but I remember Kelly talking about how wide point was forward. Which is it?
Behind.
Kelly was referring to when he designed it he was trying to move wide point forward.
“I took the template off my 6’1 Tangent model that I’ve been riding for the last couple years,” said Kelly Slater. “Yet I still wanted a board that was shorter, so I had to take length of the nose and not width out of the center. I kept the wide point a little further forward of center (about two inches to be exact) so it still rides like a longer board. This is important because I feel the outline is really crucial in allowing the board to feel loose and maintain drive.”
http://www.waterhound.com/surfing/surfing-gear/2481-slater-won-his-10th-title-on-a-board-he-designed.html
I’m confused.
Hey Scott, He mis-spoke. Ye he moved the wide point forward on the Semi Pro relative to the tangent. Just not 2″ of center
Aloha guys, what board and dimensions would you recommend as an every day all around shorty for here in HI. for summer and the smaller/av. winter days? Also what model and size step-up when its too much for a shortboard and not quite a 6’8 day. I am 6 foot 170-175 pounds advanced surfer, strong paddler. Thanks for helping us out. CI surfboards are awesome. Mahalo
All – rounder go Semi Pro 6’0″ to 6’2″ 18 7/8 x 2 5/16 round tail or
Rookie 6’1″ 18 5/8 x 2 1 /4 or 6’2″ 18 /78 x 2 5/16 Round tails
For a Set up up go 6’4″ 18 7/8 x 2 5/16 Semi Pro step or Fred Rubble STEP
thanks for the support
Al I recently started to get away from extreme flip. If I place my boards on aflat surface I am getting 5+ on the nose and almost 2″ on the tail. What do you shoot for on a 5’10″ to 6′. Also what are the patches on the tail of Kelly’s boards? Iam a backyard shaper/glasser/sander and find your tips very helpful to get me in the right direction. II find your boards very eye pleasing and inspiring. Thanks. Mark14
Mark,
Thanks for the compliments.
Semi Pro is on the flat side, is 1 7/8″ to 2″ tail, 4″ to 4 1/2″ nose.
The patches can vary from Carbon veil, 4oz fiberglass, or proto Kevlars and other weaves. Usually placed under the back foot to prevent crushing.
Hey,
I am interested in the Fred Rubble, Cheesestick, or the Neckbeard but I have no clue which board and what dims would suit me more for my goals and the waves I surf day-to-day. Lately, I have been riding either boards I have shaped or some used boards trying to figure out what kind of boards I like. What I have come up with is that I like full volume boards with sharp rails that are shaped similarly to my body shape. I am 5’9″ 170-175 so I like to ride the shorter wider boards. I am 24 years old and have roughly 6 years experience try to surf everyday (sometimes more) in Santa Cruz, CA. I tend to enjoy faster high performance waves (like most, i guess). Just looking for some input and ideas on what direction to go in.
Thanks everyone,
Rich
Rich,
If you like full volume, you can drop the stock Cheese Stick, of course you can always order it fuller. Best for beach breaks and top to bottom surfing.
The Rubble is medium volume, great in all conidtions
Short and high volume the Neckbeard would fit the bill. You can ride this one the shortest and low rocker will be fast. 5’6″ or 5’7″
Al I’m from Oz trying to locate a size for the dumpster, I normally ride 6’1 ,18’1/2, 2’1/4 fuller rails (semi Boxy) onboards @ mona said 5’7, 19 1/4, 2 5/8 but evening that feels a little boaty for me what do you think?
Clint, the 5’7″ should be 2 5/16 not 2 5/8.
Might be a typo from Onboard?
Hi,
I’m interested in a Fred Rubble, i’m 5’8 140 lb, average ability.
Surf twice a week mostly.
What board dimensions would you recommend as an all around?
Thanks.
Jose. (CR)
Jose,
a 5’9″ 18 5/8 x 2 3/16 (24.5L) or 5’10″ 18 7/8 x 2 1/4 (25.9L)
those shoudl work nicely for your size.
Hello CI crew,
Been digging the new Fred Rubble step-up with the rounded pin recently.
I’m 6’1″ and 82kg and have about 25yrs surfing experience (now 37)
What dims would you recommend please?
I would look to use it in hollow beachbreaks and reefs from headhigh to Double OH
Many thanks in advance
Tommy,
Go 6’4″ x 18 7/8 or 19 x 2 1/2.
at 180 you shortboard shoudld be about 19″ wide, or just under. Take your favorite shortboard dims and add maybe 1/8 in thickness for a Step up.
was looking at a semi pro 5’11″x 19″x 2 5/16″ wondering what u think i am 181cm and 80kg
cheers
Colin, that is right at the limit of volume (26L) for your weight and advanced level.
i normaly ride a 6’0″x18 1/2 x 2 1/4 js had a go of a mates 5’9 semi pro and was epic it sold me, just a lttle small. so do u reckon i should stay with these diemensons 5’11x19x2 5/16 or ?
thanks again
Colin, Hard to say without your weight and if it paddled small or it surfed small. But the 5’11″ will paddle like your 6’0″ did but ride shorter.
Hello CI Crew, I m 1.80 and 69Kg and used currently a 5’10″ x 18 3/4 x 2 7/16 board for beach break (small to head size) and was looking at a Semi pro 5’10″ x 18 1/2 x 2 1/4. Would it work for me ? Also I experienced only thruster board until now, what is the main difference riding a semi pro with 3,4 or 5 fins set ?
Cheers
Lionel,
A 5’10″ 18 1/2 x 2 1/4 Semi Pro is 24.8L at 152lbs we recommend 23L to 25L for expert to intermediate respectively.
Generally speaking a thruster will feel more drivey and pivoty while the quad will feel faster. All five fins would not be used unless you utilized a small nub fin like Kelly has been recently.
Hi Guys, I am 185cm and 85kg I have been riding a JS konfusion 6’3 x 19’1/8 x 2 1/2 around the 30L. I d like to stay around the 30l in a semi pro what would you recommend. I am also looking at a step up proton (or rounded pin Fred Rubble step up what is the difference?) 6’6 what dimension would you recommend? Thanks Ant
Ant,
A 30L semi Pro would be 6’2″ to 6’4 x 19 1/4 x 2 7/16 (29.5L to 30.3L respectively)
At your height try for the 6’2″.
At 6’6″ stay with 19″ to 19 1/4″ wide and same thickness. Rubble with single to double concabe will be a little more forgiving than the Proton, but the Proton more sensitive and work better when on rail.
Dear CI,
I’m 53, 165, and 5’8″. I’d say, because of my age, I’m intermed. to advanced. My range to surf is from Los Osos to Big Sur, Central Calif.. 50/50% beach to reef breaks. I’m well traveled and surf well for my age. I’m looking to size 2 boards. A work horse board for head and a 1/2 under, and a Step up for head high and over reefs. Currently I still ride my 7th MX 6’6″, 2-3/8 (and love it) as my work horse. Step ups, I’ve had many, but feel semi gun are limiting where I want to be on the wave. A dinosaur maybe but Not ready to through in the towel.
Thanks for your help,
Michael.
Michael,
The M-X was a workhorse for many for years. Planshapes have become shorter and wider since the MX. It sounds like you spend your sessions in primarily good waves. Given you like the flat entry and the forgiving nature of the MX, you could upgrade your workhorse to a 6’4 x 19 1/4 x 2 7/16 (31L) Rookie or a 6’4 x 19 1/4 x 2 7/16 (30.3L) Semi Pro.
Stay away from a proper Semi Gun and go for a Step-up. The K-Step at 6’6″ to 6’10″ by 19 1/4 x 2 7/16 should fit the bill.
hi there ci so do u think those measurments would be sweet i normaly ride a 6,0″x18 3/4 x 2 1/4
thanks again have a good one.
Colin, yes those seem spot on
How big Kelly can surf with that 6’5″, I’m looking for a big wave board, well most likely a 10 to 15 foot waves. thanks
Jose,
Kelly would ride a 6’5″ in triple overhead surf.
If you are advanced a properly dimesnsioned round tail 6’5″ would work in 10 to 15 foot faces.
Hi CI,
I’m from the Philippines and I’d like to get a Fred Rubble. I’m about 5’8″ and around 160lbs of average ability. What dimensions should I get? Thanks!
Carlos
Hey Carlos,
5’10 x 18 7/8 x 2 1/4 should do the trick
It is common knowledge that EPS is more buoyant (more on top of the water) than Poly so i wonder why Slater does not go thinner with his EPS 5’9s?
Also, if you wanted to match the buoyancy of a Poly board that is 2 1/8 thick to an EPS, what would be the thickness of the EPS?
David,
Can of worms here as everyone has different theories on the bouyancy of EPS vs PU.
Perhaps Kelly’s boards are so low volume (21-22L) to begin with going 1/16 thinner would not make much difference?
We can ask him and let you know
That would be awesome!
I wonder if Al has an opinion on the subject.
Every EPS that i have tried that is the same thickness as what I ride in PU feels too thick because it sits higher in the water.
Hi CI
I’m 5’7 135 lbs I rode a CI boards from few years…My all rounds boards are rookie 5’9 x 18 5/8 x 2 3/8 and proton 5’9 x 18 5/8 x 2 3/8. Now I’m looking for a 6,2 step up….proton or semi pro or what? I like to use it from 7 to 9 ft wave for a bigger swell. Could you give me help for the other dimensions?thanks
Pejo,
You should generally keep your same width and thickness on your step up.
Just go longer and specify RP and step up.
Both the SP and Proton are working well with the team as Step Ups, if you love your Proton then keep that one as a your Step
Thanks 4 your reply….what’s means RP?
RP=rounded pin…..Thanks
Round Pin tail
what is the volume for the 5’9 x 18 1/4x 2 1/4 semi pro 5 fin?
Hey Luke – 24L
what about the 5’10 x 18 1/2 x 2 1/4 volume?
24.8L
what is the volume of the 5’9×18 1/4x 2 1/4 semi pro 5 fin?
Recently the neck beard has caught my interest. Being from florida I ride alot of one foot to head high waves. I am six foot 150 pounds. What what lenght,width,and thickness do you suggest? Also what is the width of the square tail. Doyou ever change it. Looking foward to seeing some Hawaii quivers on your page. Last I was wondering if you use the McKee fin formula or tweaked it around some? Al I have heard it for so long but never understood what low entry rocker is. Always nice chatting and thank you. Mark
Mark,
The stock 5’4 x 19 X 2 1/8 (24L) would work for your weight. Will get you some data on fin placement and our range of entry rockers.
We use the McKee placement for the quad trailers only. This is per Kelly’s requests and has been adopted on all five fins.
Soorry I don’t know how to moderate, the info on the neckbeard will be plenty. I am 150lbs-6′ What lenght width and thckness should I ride. What is the width of the square tail. thanks Mark
I feel the wide point is super important and was wondering where the wide point is in reference to the center of each board in this quiver? Thanks
What are the glassing specs on these boards? Is S glass used? How much stronger is S glass?
Thank you.
Tim sorry for the delay, we often use one layer of S only for team, or at times a 4oz + 3/4 5oz.
We fins S-Glass while expensive, is much more durable than E.
hi ci,
i m french and surf hossegor beachbreack every day,i m 6’1 and 90kg advanced surfer.i surf a d-diver 6’0-201/4-25/8 in summer condition. do you think a rubble 6’4-201/8-25/8 round pin are good for overhead+ waves ?
thank you.
Olivier,
that Diver (34.7L) would work for an expert surfer at 210 to 220. You are at 200 so it is about right.
That Rubble (35.0L) would be for the same size guy and will work well overhead with the round pin.
Hey,
I’ve been looking through all the posts can’t find my correct size for a fred rubble I’m 6 foot 175-180lbs. I want to stay sort of small was thinking a 6’0″ but was wondering if i can go 5”11″. I surf san diego areas want this board to be my all arounder. thanks for your time. I’m an intermediate surfer.
Stephen, we have the 5’10 x 18 7/8 x 2 1/4 (25.9L) Rubble rated for expert surfers 165 to 175, the 5’11 x 19 x 2 5/16 (27.2L) for advanced 175 to 185. You might consider ordering a custom 5’11″ at 19 1/4 x 2 3/8 to get more volume in a shorter board.
Greetings:
I need some advice regarding suitable volume for my new shortboard. Here are the stats –
5’7″
175 lbs.
Advanced surfer (power surfing)
Currently riding an SP Black Beauty, 6′, 18 3/8, 2 1/4″ which works well when the surf is very hollow but would like more ease when paddling to catch a wave (easier entry, not a late/critical takeoff). Very fast and loose in the pocket but looses drive in flat sections fast.
My step up board is a CI Taylor Knox 6’4″, 19″ 2 3/8″. Lots of ease in paddling and wave catching + super fast, responsiv e board.
Looking to purchase a small wave board with a 5 fin setup (the ones mentioned are 3 fin setups). What would you recommend?
Regards,
Jean Arenas
Jean,
If small wave you mean under head hi, then go with a 5 fin neckbeard. 5’6 x 19 ¼ x 2 ¼ or 5’7 x 19 ½ x 2 5/16.
That should compliment your other 2 board nicely.
SA
Hello!
I am thinking about a board that can handle slightly bigger surf than my 5’10”, 18 1/2, 2 3/16 flyer. I also wanted a board that worked as well as the flyer on flat faced walls but that can handle a tight bottom turn. I was thinking about ordering a fred rubble 5.’11′, 18 3/8, 2 3/16 thumb tail…what do you think?’ I am 1.77 m tall and I weigh around 65 kgs and I ve been surfing in portugal for 25 years…
Nuno,
You know your boards, the round tail on the Rubble is going to handle juice better than the Flyer but still be able to grovel when needed.
Given your height and weight though you can stay wth the 5’10″ and go 5’10 x 18 7/8 x 2 1/4 or even 5’9 x 18 5/8 x 2 3/16, you want to keep the rail short for those tight bottom turns.
Hello!
we are interested in the semipro, and we´d like to know wich sizes do you think can work for us::
I´m 178cm and 77kg, above average surfing. I´d like to get a couple of semipros, so transition from one to another should be easier: One to use it mostly in beachbreaks and the other for reef breaks (from 6 to 9′). Actually I surf with a FortKnoxII (6,1 – 18 5/8, – 2 5/16) and a board from Peter Daniels 6,6 – 18 1/2 -2 5/16
My friend is 1,72 and 69Kg and surfs pretty well (old legend and champ!) He´s looking for his main board to replace a 5,8 dubster
Thank you!
Iñaki
I’m a beginner surfer looking to get a Fred Rubble for average surf in nor cal…. I’m 5’5 120 pounds
Jow,
If you are a beginner the most important thing is to get plenty of volume.
Ideally you should start with a funshape or longboard, but if you want to start with a performance board then get a Rubble around 6 foot or longer
Hi CI, I’m TakaC from Singapore where are living in no wave country & need to travel for surfing in Asia like a Bali/Indonesia. I’m looking for 3 kinds of boards as One for small wave Knee to Head in beach-breaks and One for Waist to over-head in beach-breaks & point-breaks (stones) and the last one is for shoulder to double-over head in reef-breaks. I’m thinking to get 1 – the motor boat for small wave, 2 – Fred-Rubble as all-round board & 3 – Semi-Pro or Rookie for Solid-wave. Can you advise what size I should order?!… I think I’m between Intermediate and advance, but I like to make more vertical & Air. I’m riding D.D (5.7 x 19 1/2 x 2 5/16) and Proton (6.0 x 18 1/2 x 2/ 1/4). D.D is working well, but I feel Proton is a bit too long. My size is 173cm x 69kg. Thx in advance.
TakaC,
At your ability and weight, you can ride your boards a little smaller.
Try the Motorboat 5’6 x 19 ¼ x 2 ¼. The Rubble at 5’9 x 18 5/8 x 2 3/16 and a round tail Rookie 5’11 x 18 1/2 x 2 1/8
or Semi Pro at 5’11 x 18 3/4 x 2 1/4
Thx CI. I will try a litter smaller board. Cheers.
Hey Al,
I am 14 and I am about to get some boards through my local surf shop in Hanalei Kauai and I am growing fast how long do you think these boards might take. Also what would be the best way to order boards. I wish I could go off the stock list but the boards are all to big.
Thanks
Lucas
Lucas,
Order from your local shop. If you want current models, without airbrush, then these should be built in under 4 weeks.
Hello,
I am an intermediate/advanced surfer looking to get a Semi-pro. I am 5’11″ and 175 Lbs. I live in ventura and I surf a lot of beachbreak and if i surf a point it is usually somewhere punchy. My favorite board i have right now is a SUPER toy custom order (5’10.5″ , 18 3/4, 2 1/4) with carbon fiber in the tail. it works well for small days and beach break up to a little overhead. What dimensions should i order for a Semi-Pro?
Eli sounds like you ride low volume (expert level) for your weight.
We suggest 6’0 x 18 7/8 x 2 5/16 (advanced) but if you want to keep it like your Super then go 5’11 x 18 3/4 x 2 1/4
How are the rails on the Fred Rubble (full, medium)? Thanks
Carlos – Medium
Hi
I’m 6’0, 175 lb, intermediate to advanced surfer & I’m thinking of the following boards
Could you let me know the volumes of these boards & tell me if they look about right for me?
Semi Pro – 6’1, 19 1/8, 2 3/8
Fred Rubble – 6’0, 18 7/8, 2 3/8
Dumpster Diver – 5’9, 19 3/4, 2 3/8
Pod – 5’8, 20, 2 3/8
Can Pukas in Donostia do all those boards?
Thanks heaps
Barrels
Ben – based on your weight we call out 26L on hi performance to 29L on grovellers at expert level.
SP- 28.1L
FR- 27.5
DD- 30L
Pod – 29.3L
Yes olatu/pukas is trained on all these. They looks like they could all fit within the range at intermed to advanced. The Rubble maybe go 19 1/8.
Hey Al,
I know I am going to get a 5’2″ x 17 3/8 x 2 Fred Rubble for my beach break board but I really like the single to double concave on the bottom of my boards and I was wondering what shortboard is good in hollow good waves that has a single to double bottom. I am 5’3″ and around 98 lbs and an advanced surfer (blowtails, barrels, turns and all).
Thanks so much
Lucas
Lucas,
The Rubble does have single to a slight double concave to vee in it already.
As most of the ASP tour had switched to all single concave over the last few years, not many newer models have double concave in them. However you could also choose from the Ft Knox or Dagger a those do have double.
Hi CI,
I’m 6’1, 190lbs, intermediate/advanced surfer. I’m trying to once and for all get the board that would be just the right volume and height for me and I’m hoping you can help. Here is a list of boards that I’ve had in the past and their issues:
6’1 x 19 1/4 x 2 3/8 Flyer – I really liked this board when I actually got on the wave but the I felt like it needed more volume. Paddling it into the wave wasn’t the easiest.
6’2 x 19 1/8 x 2 1/2 MBM – This board didn’t feel like it had enough volume or the volume I wanted for paddling
6’2 x 19 1/4 x 2 1/2 Flyer – I really liked this board and I feel like this has been the best fit for volume so far. Maybe a tad too much volume though.
6’1 1/2 x 19 1/2 x 2 1/2 Tangent – I like this board but it feels like there’s a tad too little volume.
I’m looking at the Fred Rubble but I think the 6’1 stock dims might be too small and the 6’2 stock dims might be too big. I know I sound like goldilocks here but if you could help me find the best board (or boards) based on the information I provided, I’d be happy to go out and purchase them right now. This is for an all around board and point breaks.
Also, could you list out the volumes of the boards I mentioned above (ex. 31.9L) and the volumes of the boards you suggest too?
Thanks!
James
James,
We ran the volumes
6’1 x 19 1/4 x 2 3/8 Flyer – 30.2L
6’2 x 19 1/8 x 2 1/2 MBM – 29.8L
6’2 x 19 1/4 x 2 1/2 Flyer – 32.0L
6’1 1/2 x 19 1/2 x 2 1/2 Tangent – 30.6L
Looks like you can shoot for the upper 31L and you might be juuust right.
6’2 x 19 5/8 x 2 1/2 Rubble is 31.6L
6’1 x 19 3/8 x 2 7/16 Rubble is 30.1L
Wow. You guys are on top of this! Thanks so much for the info. Very helpful and much appreciated. Keep up the good work.
One more thing please – Based on all the info above, what dims would you recommend for a Semi-Pro and Rookie at a volume around 31-31.6?
James a 6’4 x 19 1/4 x 2 7/16 Rookie is 31L
6’5 x 19 1/2 x 2 ½ Semi Pro is 31.9L
6’3 x 19 5/8 x 2 1/2 Semi Pro is 31.2L
Hey C.I.
First wanna say thanks for answering alll these questions, pretty much the only surf forum/website I’ve seen do this, so Kudos to ya’ll.
So my question is, I am looking to get a Rubble. I am 6’2″ and 190-195 lbs. I consider myself advanced/expert surfer (cutbacks, throw fins, hacks, ocasional air) and mainly surf Cali beach break, sometimes point.
I already have a Semi-Pro 6’2″ x 19 1/4 x 2 7/16. Would getting a 6’2″ Rubble be overkill? I normally never go under 2 1/2 for thickness, but decided to take a chance with the Semi-Pro and love it. Works great even in mushy waste to chest high beach break. I have a few other grovelers that I use on occasion, but want something that could be a little bit more when its punchy.
So basically wondering if the FR in the same height as my SP would be worth it, or if I should try some other dimensions.
Mahalos for your help!
Young – thanks for the props. We realize getting the right board is important, and even small changes in dimensions can make a big difference.
Your SP 6’2″ x 19 1/4 x 2 7/16 is 29.5L.
A stock Rubble 6’2 x 19 5/8 x 2 1/2 will be 31.6L and rated for an expert at 200lbs.
This will make a big difference in paddle and on rail.
Normally you would use the Rubble as more of a groveller than the Semi Pro. You could however order the FR at 19 1/4 and put a round tail (like Kelly does) on it for good waves. then you get good paddling into the chunky stuff and that versatile FR performance
Hey Al,
I was looking at the Fort Knox for my good wave board what about the rookie or the remix what kind of bottom is on those boards
Lucas,
The Ft Knox is very popular for good waves, make sure to get a round tail. It has light single to DEEP double concave.
Rookie and ReMix are both single concave excellent shortboards boards which like to be surfed more on rail than a double concave board. The team rode some Rookie Step-Ups with mixed results when they got over 6’4″. Go with the Ft. Knox if its for big waves.
Hey Al
I was thinking fort knox for my good wave board but i am only 95 lbs. I was checking out bethany and alanas boards and some of the remixs and rookie had doubles in them? Can you get a single to double on a custom board like a rookie or do you just have to go with the single like it is on all boards?
Lucas – you can get double concave like you saw in Alana and Bethany’s boards, just needs to be a custom order specifying the double to be hand shaped in.
ok thank you so much! So what do you think is the best board for good waves that I should get like a hawaii board
go ReMix with double concave and a round pin.
ok thanks how the proton?
I bought a Remix, a 6’6 and it has the measurement written on it and it has Jean’s name on it. I am curious to know who this Jean is? I have tried googling the Remix and it doesn’t tell me how good the Remix is so what can you tell me about this model?
Paul, check this link for the ReMix page http://cisurfboards.com/surfboards/remix/
Sounds like you bought a board that was built custom, send us the serial # and we can provide details.
Hey Al
That for the advice about the remix. How do you think the proton with a double concave and a round pin will work for a good hollow wave board. Everyone tells me that is the board for good waves so should I go with the remix or the proton? Let me know what you think,thanks!
Lucas – the Proton comes standard with the single concave, we can put double in it if you like, but hard to say 100% if that will suit your personal tastes. The Proton works best for expert surfers, and the ReMix works for a wide variety of all level surfers.
Ok thank you
Hey Guys,
Looking at getting into the whole shorter wider thing for my daily driver anything from chest to head/half high . I’m 6″3/1/2 and 190lbs 38yo average plus ability . I like a little more volume for paddling as I surf allot but the back isn’t what it used to be . Thinking along the lines of RUBBLE or DAGGER squash or round tail . What dims would you be suggesting and what would be the nose and Tail dims at 12″ also please ??? Thanks in advance Guys !
Darren
Volume for your size on a Dagger and Fred would be right arounf 30L to 32L these are on the upper end to give some paddle power
You could ride a 3 6’3″ in either
Dagger 6’3″ 19 5/8 x 2 3/8 is 32L Approx 11 7/8 N and 14 1/4 T
Rubble 6’3″ x 19 5/8 x 2 9/16 is 32.4L Approx 12″N and 14 3/4 T
Hi again,
What would be a reasonable size and width for my step up for the overhead and solid conditions based on your dims for the daily driver ?
Thanks
Anywhere from 2″ to 4″ longer, generally keep your same width and thickness of your daily driver if you really like that board.
Hey guys,
If I went for a Semi Pro or a Fred Rubble with the same dimensions. 6′ 1″ x 19 1/8″ x 2 3/8″ both as a round tail.
What would be the difference?
I know the Rubble has a lower entry rocker but what will be the effect on how it rides?
And what would be the volumes of the 2 boards?
Thanks heaps
Barrels
Barrels –
The SP will be slightly less volume as the rails are thinned. The Rubble also has a little more kick in the tail.
29L on the Fred and feel quite loose.
About 28.5L on the SP and havel a little more drive.
Hey guys! Just wanted to start it off by saying that this is amazing how much help you give with this blog. Not too many (if any) companies that I know of do anything like this. Anyways, I’m looking to get a “good wave board”. I surf San Diego often and have a biscuit for the smaller stuff. Is there a board that you’d recommend that would be a 5′- 3′ish overhead waves? I am 5’7 155 lbs and an intermediate surfer. I have been pointed in the direction of the 5’9 x 18 1/4″ x 2 1/4″ semi pro, but was skeptical in how it’d handle in the bigger waves. Would maybe a 6’0 rookie or something of that nature be a better choice? Any info/advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Joe
Here to help when we can! The SP in a round tail would generally be a better selection that the Rookie, unless you customed the Rookie in to a step up.
Kelly rode the SP in all kinds of barrels so will handle well, just need to consider how much volume you want for ease of paddling.
That 5’9″ at 24L is going to be for an expert at 155 lbs, so consider looking at a 5’10″.
I just recently bought a stock 6’1 Fred Rubble off the rack. It paddles great and is easy to surf butt feels a like a littel too much volume for me. Im 6’1 and 165lbs, been surfing for 10 years and feel like Im slightly above average skill level. What would my ideal volume be for a my boards and would you recomend me surfing a smaller Fred?
thanks
Shannon, our calcs call out a stock volume of 24.5L for an expert at 165lbs and 25.9L for an intermediate.
That stock 6’1″ you have is 30.1L and would be for an expert at 190lbs or an intermediate at 180 to 185 lbs.
Deal is you are tall and light, our stock dims would be 5’10″ 18 7/8 x 2 1/4 but you might want to go longer to make up for your height.
Salut CI
I’ve be surfing for more than 20 years so I’m an experienced surfer. I weight 176 lbs and I’m 6 ’3′”. I live in the Caribbean so surf mainly reefs and point breaks. Sometimes it’s double over head, but mostly it’s waist high. First I got the dumpster 5.8 X19 1/4 X2/3/8 (best board ever!) so then I got the neck beard in the same dimensions. My questions: What’ s the volume of the dumpster and neck beard and what dim’s should I take for a Fred Rubble? Also, could you recommend any other boards?
Thanks
Hi,
I am 6ft tall and wight approx 190. I am thinking about buying a Rubble or Semi Pro. What size and deems do you recommend?
thanks,
Mike
Hey Mike,
At advanced level try the following:
6’2 x 19 1/4 x 2 7/16 (29.5L) Semi Pro or 6’1 x 19 3/8 x 2 7/16 FR (30.1L)
Hi, I was looking for a motorboat . I am 5.7ft tall and wight 154. What size and deems do you recommend ?
Thanks .
Roms
Roms,
Have you tried this link off the CI site?
http://cisurfboards.com/suggested_boards.php
Start with a 58 x 19 3/4 x 2 1/2 (28.6L)
thanks – CI
Hi, i m advanced surfer with 200lbs ..what do you think a dumpster diver 59x 197/8 x 2.7/16 ..? Thanks
Raul,
Our board tool reccomends a 5’10″
http://cisurfboards.com/suggested_boards.php
It would surf fine, but you may be giving up some paddling at 200lbs.
zakk
Im looking for a new board i am 185 5’11 and at an intermediate level above average and im looking at the new flyer, dumpster diver, and the motorboat too. My Breacks are in florida making them weaker then most. What do you reccomend.